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SPIRITUALITY Copyright 2002

Good afternoon. Can you tell us about yourself?

We are called the Beings of Light. We exist in another dimension. We have been, and we are, and we will always be.

Are you a soul?

We are a part of many souls. We are that which is beyond, and that is, that will become, yet it is now, for there is no "time" for us, such as you term it.

Can you tell me more about souls?

Souls are part of the universal intelligence and they are all connected to one another. In your terms, they are all separate. For us, they are all part of the same whole. Each soul become(s) individualized through many reincarnations in your world and other worlds.

How did souls begin?

There is no beginning and there is no end, for all is one and has always been.

Well, does a soul have a separate identity?

As the individual reincarnates, their soul becomes more individualized in order to fulfill their mission, but as you will come to understand, we are part of Alahah's soul, yet we are different, and still the same.

Can you tell me about the path that a soul takes to learn?

Each soul makes choices as to where and when they choose to be reborn. They choose their environment, their parents, and their siblings long before the actual physical birth takes place. There are many paths to take, for there are unlimited experiences in the different worlds. Some (parts?) of the souls will choose hardship in order to learn a lesson; others will choose to be a teacher. There are no such things as accidents.

I'm trying to understand, as we go along, what you are explaining; and my understanding of it is that souls are a differentiated part of a universal whole.

That is correct.

OK. So in between incarnations in this world, are souls still differentiated?

As long as there is a path for a soul to learn to reach the point of knowledge that was lost, the soul will be differentiated yet not, for each soul is still part of the whole, and there is constant communication going on amongst the different worlds and dimensions. As we said, we are part of Alahah; Alahah is part of us, yet we are different but the same. Do you understand?

I think I'm beginning to, but I would like to ask another question to elaborate and gain further understanding. You say that you are part of Alahah and Alahah is part of you; is the "you" and that part of Alahah… is that a differentiated soul, or is that a part of a universal whole, or is it something else? And can you tell me more about it?

We are, in your terms, what you might call the future being of Alahah, as you also have your future being in your spirit that you can choose to communicate with at any time. So does everyone else that you term an individual, for time is only something that matters in your physical world.

And is the future being still a differentiated being? Is the future being, for example, the future of this particular soul? Are you the future of Alahah's soul?

That is correct.

OK. I understand that now.

We are also part of the whole, for all souls are united, but because of the lessons and the games that have been chosen, there is differentiation, and we all have access to one another. If there were no such thing as a physical world, there would not be anything such as separate consciousness.

You spoke of several worlds. Could you tell me more about them?

There are many dimensions within your world, and there are other worlds in various universes that have different forms of what you term "intelligent life."

Do all of these come from one source?

That is correct.

Can you tell me more about that source?

There is what you may call a "universal energy," or Source, or intelligence. There are many life forms, there are many worlds, there are many dimensions, and they are all connected to the one Source from where we all come.

You speak of an "intelligence”; I'm not quite sure. What I'm trying to get at is how these various worlds with their dimensions exist, and do they all draw their energy from this one source, this "intelligence"?

That is correct. "All there is" has the knowledge that was forgotten when lives in the physical worlds were chosen in order to experience another aspect of this earth, and the knowledge became forgotten. The individualized souls choose various paths in order to regain the knowledge that was lost. So you may think of it in terms of their having been no purpose except to experience a differential life in a different form. But when the knowledge became lost through those experiences in the physical worlds, the soul had a need to regain the full knowledge of the universes again, and that is the purpose of the soul. In truth, it is a path that is another existing, for when you reach the knowledge again, you will choose to start another experience in another form, and a path starts all over again.

Now when that choice is made, is that, then, the beginning of another soul, or is it a continuation of the same soul?

The Source is unlimited, and as individuality forms by choice there are an unlimited number of souls possible. Do you understand?

I think. Let me paraphrase it to see if I have this correctly: That the unlimited source--a portion of it, a small portion chooses to experience life in a particular world, and when it makes that choice, it then loses the knowledge that it had as part of the universal source or energy. Am I right so far?

That is correct.

OK. And then when it eventually, through its path, regains that knowledge--and this is the part where I'm not sure if I have it right--when it regains that knowledge it chooses again, to experience life in, perhaps another form--and I'm not sure if when it makes that choice, it becomes a different soul, or whether it's a continuation of the same soul.

It is both. In your physical terms it would become a different soul, because a soul that has reached the knowledge again will merge with all there is, so in those terms it is a different soul. Yet it has access to all that came before.

Is that "access to all that came before" at all like the concept of the "collective unconscious" that Jung had, or are we talking about something different?

Jung had some truth to his ideas, but in a limited way. You can call it "collective unconscious" when in truth it is collective consciousness, for all beings have the truth and the knowledge that has become hidden from beings experiencing in the physical world. Even to us in our dimension we have not attained perfect knowledge.

Tell me more about your dimension. Would your dimension be what I would think of as a "spiritual" realm?


That could be an interpretation, yes. For we do not have physical bodies, in your terms, yet we do have forms in our world of a different density and of a different vibration, for that is how we have progressed towards the total knowledge, and part of us is within "all there is."

Is part of me, in this world, within "all that is?"

Yes.

That's what I thought from what you said before.

You are God within your own universe, as you are part of "all there is," in the way that your world understands what God can be, for it is not something outside of yourself, it is within your being. It is important, when you go out in the world, to treat yourself and others to that truth. Do you understand?

I think I understand. When you say it is important to treat myself and others to that truth, are you saying that particularly for me as an individual on my own soul path, or are you saying that in general, for all human beings?

The truth is for you and for all beings, be they human or otherwise. It is to learn to remember who you are, not whom you think you are. Human beings and other beings tend to create personas and live under the false belief that those personas are who they are. That is not who they are; that is only who they pretend to be. The truth that there is beauty and universal love and knowledge within everyone is part of the path we need to rediscover.

I have a question that comes from that. Let's talk about a fairly well known person in history. I'm interested in your explanation of how this person, who from my understanding so far, would have originally started out as a choice from the universal source to experience being an individual form in this world, and who was a soul on a path. How could that truth and beauty be involved with this person? The person I'm thinking of was known as Adolph Hitler. I believe his original name was Shicklegruber. You're probably aware of him.

When one chooses to experience another form, sometimes the soul becomes lost. Many beings have memory and a vague knowledge that keeps them on their path, but some lose their way and totally forget of what they are part. In your world that is what becomes the term of "evil." The soul has constant choice, whether in the body or not. The soul can become lost too far. They lose all sense of the spirit within. You term such souls "sociopath", "evil" and many other names.
But there is another truth. In order for the world to experience the multitude of nuances of physical life, you cannot have one kind only. Remember there is universal communication between souls. Sometimes earthly happenings that affect the multitudes are part of a soul pattern of a group.

You speak of the soul pattern of a group. Would, for example, the Jews who constituted approximately half of those who were killed in the Holocaust, would they be a group with a soul pattern? Is that an example of your concept?


That is an example, and there is another part to that. You will find many younger Jewish people today that were in Germany as German gentiles in their last lifetime, for what you fear and fight the most is what you will become. Be aware of your fears, for we tend to create that which we are afraid of so that we do not have the fear anymore to get in the way of our spiritual knowledge.

Are you speaking here --about our fears--of the cycle wherein the victim of abuse becomes an abuser?
Rarely does a victim of abuse become an abuser in the spiritual path. But in your physical world, there is a pattern of repetition of the past, and in that case, they often can become abusers; but that is not what we speak of.


It is when the soul creates a path from which they have chosen to learn. There is free will in your physical world and for your whole physical lifetime. It is made up of various choices. Depending on to what degree somebody is in touch with his or her spirit or soul; to that degree the choices will be made. The farther away from the soul awareness, the more likely a being would become involved in another (non-spiritual) aspect of life. You can use the term "lost souls," but there is also a comfort in knowing that even lost souls will eventually regain some knowledge, for all beings have helpers in the different dimensions--as we have Alahah and others--so there are helpers for everyone.
Sometimes in your physical world drastic traumas seem to have to happen in order for someone to open up. That is not the way it was meant to be, but it is often the way it is. And yet there is a balance to life, for even when we think in terms of hideous crimes and traumas, there is a truth in the balance, in that, that knowledge oftentimes enhances the ability of many souls to grow and to learn. There are no such things as accidents.
Remember, the individual soul is never alone. It is always connected to others. Whether the soul can remember, there are groups that are connected from lifetime to lifetime and they often choose to live in areas where they can re-meet. Those are (friends?) in your terms. So sometimes when you meet someone with whom there is a rapport and a connection, oftentimes it is because there have been many lifetimes shared on different levels. So you may say that the spiritual world on a certain level is made up of the universal "all there is"; separated from that, yet connected, are the soul groups in countries, in religions; and within those groups are smaller groups where many lifetimes have been shared. Give us a moment…
You may resume the questions on your mind…

Yes. I would like to follow up on the material that you were just telling me. The people that are connected in past lives; are these past lives a continuation of the same soul on its path forward, and was it on that path at previous times, when it connected with other souls in a group, all of whom had past lives that related to each other, and then they're all moving forward into new lives (together)?

In your terms, that is so.

OK. So I understood that correctly; is there more about that, that you wanted to tell me?

Remember to keep the mind, the soul, and the heart open, for it is a true gift when you re-meet old friends.
Are all of the souls in a particular -- perhaps we might call it an "affinity group" -- learning at the same rate, or are some progressing toward regaining the original knowledge at a faster rate than others?
There is a variety, of course, but there are usually very strong similarities to the degree of awareness they have achieved. Those that "fall off the wagon," so to speak, choose friends from other past life experiences and their path takes a different turn. Most, as you call them, "affinity groups" -- and we like that name -- are aware before their physical births that they will meet again and learn from one another in this lifetime. As we said, there are no such things as accidents.

I'm curious to learn a little more about the structure of some of these worlds and beings. You've spoken of beings, both human beings and other beings; could you tell us more about the nature of beings?

If you look at the Source, and then you look at the souls that became from the Source, there are unlimited paths of experiences in unlimited forms of life. Some beings do not have a physical body; some beings do. Not all physical bodies are the same.

Is this all in this same world, or are you speaking of different worlds?

There are many different worlds in many different dimensions.

Well, within this particular world that I am in right now, are there other beings? I know there are human beings; but for example, are trees and other plant life, beings; are inanimate things like rocks, beings?

There is part of "all there is" within everything in your world, for there is a vibration of the universal force within, be it a flower or a car, and you will know or not. Have you ever spoken to a rock?

Not to a rock; but I have to plant life.

For the rock has a very slow vibration, and is more difficult for humans to tune in to than the other life forms, such as plant life. But they have much to share for they have been in the physical world for much longer than any of you can be.

Do rocks have souls?

Not in the terms of humans. It is different, and we suppose you could call it a "soul." It is a vibration of the universal force that is within everything, but the consciousness of a rock, as we said, is a much slower vibration and it does not reincarnate, so in those terms it is not on the same path as a soul is.

How about a plant? Do plants reincarnate? Are they souls that develop the way that the kind of soul that you are develops?


Again it is a different path of that life force. You have plants that arise every year -- perennials, you call them -- that is the same energy that is reborn year after year, but it does not have a path to find soul knowledge as you do, for it does not need to. It is creation, or part of creation, in itself.

How about animals, for example, a cat?

There are souls of animals. Their energy is different from the plant life and different from the humans; and, yes, they reincarnate. Again, it is a matter of the vibration chosen by that part of the consciousness of "all there is" which became the cat.

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Is that true for all animals?

That is so.

And are all plants not with souls, but just being this energy that comes back over and over again, as you gave in the example of the perennial?

Remember the life force of "all there is" is within everything that you see and feel around you, and in many cases, things that you do not see, but sometimes feel around you. In that sense, we are all part of what you might call the "mother soul" or "all there is," so you are as much connected to the animal and plant form as you are to other human beings and to us.

OK. I understand that; what I'm trying to do is differentiate between various life forms in this world, and also inanimate forms in this world. My understanding so far is:
1) Human beings have souls which are really not aware of, at least in normal everyday life, are not aware of their progression of soul hood from incarnation to incarnation; we have
2) Animals which have souls, and again, please correct me if I've misunderstood any of this, but animals have souls that reincarnate from lifetime to lifetime, and animals are aware of their soul connection to the universal source and are able to live confident and unafraid in that awareness; we have
3) Plants that, from my understanding of your previous example, are energies that comes from that universal source, that reiterates in existence in this world without having a soul; and, we have
4) Rocks that are also energy and, I'm not quite sure of this one, because it seems to me for example, that crystals do rematerialize, but I got the basic idea that rocks did not reiterate. Maybe I'm imposing too much order on this.
Could you run through this again and elaborate so I can understand it better?


We will simplify it for you. Everything that you can touch is part of the universal energy. To make it easier, we can say that everything has a "soul" but is a different type, or different part, of the energy given, in a different state of vibration. A plant vibrates at its own speed, which is not the same as yours or ours. An animal, again, is different from a plant, or from us, or from humans. So each living thing and each created thing vibrates at its own speed. Do you understand?

Yes, I do understand that, and I can see that I'm going to get mixed up with the term "soul," because I believe that the way you're using "soul" now is simply meaning a part of the universal energy -- having split off from the universal energy -- and yet, at some other times we've used "souls" as being an individuated and continuing part of that energy, that has chosen to experience itself in this or another world, and follows a spiritual path of regaining the knowledge that it originally lost when it split off to live in this world. I'll just have to try to keep this straight in my mind, unless there is a way that you can simplify it or give us ways to refer to these various things.

We agree. It is very difficult not to label things in the physical world; so be it. There is a "soul", in our terms, within all creation; but in a sense of consciousness, only humans are striving again to reach the path of knowledge of where they came from. There is not the same degree of consciousness in the plant form. It is a different vibration, and they already have the knowledge. Does that make sense to you?

Yes. And the same thing is true with the animals?

That is so. Other animals have a consciousness and reincarnate, but they have not lost all the knowledge and that part of the universal force which have chosen the path of animal life has a whole different purpose than do humans.

What is that purpose?
To be…

To be; to exist?

Each living thing experiences its own form and level of life. There may be a time when an animal energy will choose not to become an animal any longer and will then return to the source. But it will not, within its own energy, reincarnate as a human being, for that requires a different level of vibration. Of course that does not stop the energy from using part of the animal's spirit and mingle and add to that energy to create a human. That is what we call a "young soul," for they will have much to learn.

Who or what makes the decision to create a "young soul"?

It is part of the creation to experience life in all its possibilities, to which there is no such thing as a limit. And we must need to close soon, for the body of Alahah is tired.

I really appreciate the time that you have taken to talk with us. I wondered, before you go, if you could just tell me your name, so that I may thank you.

So many have asked us that question. We do not have a name in your terms. We are the Beings of Light. And so, in love and in peace, we wish you a good day, till the next time.

Thank you very much!

©2003 Lisi Hoff and Paul Wiers All Rights Reserved
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